If dawnbreakers would have divine marriage paired with something else than polygamy it would be tier 1. Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. It gets pretty boring tbh. Both my character and Christianity are based. All rights reserved. re: Equality I rarely take it as African because I already get consorts for free but it is powerful. Reformation tends to grant benefits of stability and the capacity to declare wars on larger-scale targets that smaller pagan nations couldn't attack, but lose many of the benefits that would help a small pagan nation expand more readily or defend itself from larger targets. I like this feature but it's tough to convert others outside your realm. This allows defensive pagans to defeat enemy armies twice their size with ease. Eldership succession law is allowed. Also offsets short reign. Reformed pagans will gain a sudden bonus to their conversion rates. on Paradox technology, Legal Matrilineal marriages are disabled. Keeping moral authority high is also a problem due to weak realms who often lose religious wars. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. Once that is done, you will also need 750 piety and 50% moral authority to start the process. Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but County Conquest CB is available. Bn is also unlocked by Jade Dragon, and Horse Lords allows playing of pagan nomadic rulers. The homeland attrition penalty does apply to reformed pagans of another faith, but the "old faith" heresies have no such protection against the reformed churches of their specific branch of paganism. What, in your opinion, is the best photograph? Edit: mixed it up, retaining matrilineal lines if you ever want to go back to male rulers will be trouble, not the other way around. (AI rulers are likely to accept the reformed religion if cynical, same dynasty as the reformer, or under control of a reformed ruler.) However, other rulers will have a choice. For example, players who seek to reduce internal conflicts in their country, but still want to expand their boundaries, could use the following culture/religion/doctrine combination: Altaic culture, Tengri, Peaceful, Stability, Equality, Autonomous. Enatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Sacrifice action (unless Peaceful). If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. There are no Hellenic rulers at any start date, but Hellenism can be revived in several ways: There is one special pagan faith that normally only appears in-game as the listed religion of long-dead historical figures. Hierocratic and Autocephalous is a good way when we don't want to bother much with religious head but want to have high MA. Proselyting - ??? The faith is widespread in early starting dates, and some of the realms, such as Croatia, are already feudal rather than tribal. If you've ever wondered about in CK2, how do you change religion, now you know! Clearly Messalian. - can ask the leader of this realm to help convert the tribal leader's realm to the organized religion.Benefactor needs to be non-tribal, non-nomadic, non-theocracy (so you can't ask Pope for mass conversion . Eastern Orthodoxy, Miaphysite Christianity, Allows sacrifice of thralls captured in raids, Allows sacrifice of courtiers to read entrails, Once per decade interpretation of stars by religious head or court chaplain if none exists, Education improvement synergy and Meliorism improvement synergy. Reformed offensive pagans no longer lose prestige when at peace. All units gain 80% to defense when fighting enemies in a province of the combatant's religion. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. Suomenusko, religion of the Finno-Ugric people stretches from the Baltic Sea to Siberia. Warmongering: I think most of us are familiar with it, because unreformed Germanics and Tengri have it. The reason I don't like to pick it is that the bonuses apply to my vassals and makes them much stronger. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Also Hellenic religion lacks concubines. Male pagan rulers may take up to three concubines in addition to a wife (except for Hellenic pagans who cannot have multiple spouses or concubines unless the polygamy doctrine is chosen when reforming). If tribal, remember that demesne counties which are still following the old faith will give less tax and levies. It has synergy with Agnatic and Enatic doctries, giving us new CB for Patriarchal and Matriarchal depositions. However, by 1337, only two chiefs in northern Finland/Sweden follow the faith, with the rest of Finno-Ugric lands being divided between Catholic/Orthodox Christians and the Sunni Golden Horde. Meritocracy seems like the best non unique doctrine to me. Concubines not allowed. Some of them are stronger than the regular doctrines. Duke-tier religious head common for all realms. Don't @ me, if you dis. Pretty useless outside india but with gavelkind sucession you can have a demesene of twenty counties. Bloodthirsty Gods effects. For tribal pagans, reforming makes it easier to raise tribal organization. As temporal head you get to choose who to venerate. Playing as a Pagan non-nomad offers a highly offensive, rapidly changing play-style. Peaceful nature is powerful if you have a huge realm . Top tier for me are Catholicism/Fraticelli and the Muslim ones. I've had games where several centuries have gone by and literally only one or two guys have been made Venerated Ancestors and they're usually some random idiot. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Only disadvantage is that AI rulers will never convert counties but you can do that yourself). Having a hard time picking between prepared invasions and Meritocracy, either epic land grabs, or being able to designate best heir.. You can marry your brothers to other Christians for alliances AND marry your sister for yourself. Some Religions (Germanic) keep +30% Levies when they reform and will only loose it through unyielding. Others have concvinced me that Hellenic is the best overall. You are using an out of date browser. Matrilineal marriages are disabled. I changed my mind about divine marriage doctrine, it actually allows us to breed new bloodlines fairly easy into our dynasty. Raiding unavailable if culture doesn't allow raiding.Hunting focus is unavailable.Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but county conquest CB is available.Dueling comes with a Piety cost.Cannot create warrior lodge if it does not already exist.AI rulers will not convert provinces. Unyielding also reduces AI aggressiveness, which can be a negative if you want your AI vassals to attack/invade your enemies for you. So I'm not a very big fan of Autonomous. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Temporal rests power with you, and gives you bonuses, and you can . its the left over generic pagan religion that isnt used anymore since old gods actually separated it into different pagan religions #12 Hinduism is solid with the early Holy Order, morale buff, patron deities and raiding but they lack any inheritance/realm management perks. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. This attrition only applies in provinces of the same religion as their ruler, so Germanic pagans won't lower their enemies' supply limits in Slavic territory. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. With the Holy Fury expansion, requirements for reformation remain unchanged, but the player may select four "traits" for religion, which affects the set of available mechanics for the religion and provides various bonuses. Great work!!! Holy sites: Djimi, Draa, Gao, Kano and Wagadu. As I recall stability+astrology also has a synergy where you get to boost your heir at birth. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. These three are weird. Such penalties usually function to prevent any rival faith from taking their lands in spite of being relatively weak and of a rival faith that normally could be easily holy warred. I agree, meliorism should have notification. I was new to HF just like everyone else and I had no idea what the end result would be. For every pagan religion there is a special Doctrine, unique only to them, that is most often than not more powerful than normal Doctrines. After the 1200s, most of Lithuania is feudal and by 1337, it stands as the last pagan kingdom in Europe, surrounded by Teutonic Order, Golden Horde, Poland and Novgorod. Germanic pagans do not have to reform to create the Jomsvikings; instead, they must control Stettin, Wolgast, Rgen or Werle.). The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. Pagans tend to be powerful in early years but weaken as time passes for several reasons: There is hope, however: should the Pagan faiths become reformed, the faith's survival is almost set in stone. If gender flexibility is desired, Ancestor Veneration can be chosen for Eldership succession. The religious head can decide upon death to. Daring is a good way to lose moral authority because AI is incompetent, and we as a player will need prepared invasion only once (maybe twice). It's included in Children of Perun and Survivors of Ukko btw. You finally conquered all the holy sites and can reform your pagan religion in Crusader Kings II (CK2), but there are so many choices now that you just need to look up what everything means. Additionally, those defensive pagans who are tribal, may call forth Devout Warriors (without ). Eldership succession law is allowed. Reforming the religion removes these restrictions, allowing tribal rulers to use gavelkind and allowing feudal rulers to use primogeniture. Which religion is best? Its full potential is available when we are huge feudal empire and rely more on our vassal levies. Each pagan faith has one unique doctrine, which has features of two or more generic traits. These doctrines are tied to the reformer's religion. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Dogmatic Nature + Unrelenting Doctrine is a pretty powerful combination as it gives a flat 10% attack bonus to all units as well as makes your religion MA always high meaning easier polythesising, not to mention the removal of pagan attrition from your reformed religion, allowing you to continue ripping pagan lands to shreds without melting. A religion's nature determines its attitude toward warfare and religious conversion. Reformer becomes the first religious head, PDXCON Meritocracy is just delayed open succession after we get to Primogeniture law. Access to Hermetic society. Proselytizing is a must pick if you have a lot of land with conversion resistant heathens, since AI rarely bothers converting them otherwise. I usually take unyielding but in the future I think I'll go with Proselytizing. However, it is good when you expanded before reformation, and want to settle down and rely more on our vassals and domain rather than stats of our ruler. While three of the faith's holy sites are in Scandinavia, the other two are in mainland Europe and often held by strong Christian rulers. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. This applies even when one is the attacker, and on territory held by another lord; Only the dominant religion of the province you are standing upon matters. Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history? It basically removes any fear of a succession crisis ever again, and Enatic gets the slight edge by basically giving you a free subjugation/crusade option on pretty much any leader in the game due to the rarity of female rulers in general. These doctrines can be picked no matter the reformer's religion. I never tried Astrology and Haruspicy, I think they have the same amount of events as bloodthirsty gods, but I have yet to try them. Historically, the pagan faiths were gradually supplanted by Christianity, Islam, Dharmic religions, and Eastern religions, but this does not necessarily happen in the game. They then become the "Reformed" version. Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. Haruspicy and Astrology effects. Access to monastic feudal government with Tibeto-Burman culture group. Holy sites: Balkh, Gilgit, Lhasa, Purang and Khotan. Also I really wish we were given an "alert" for when Meliorism from Stability is ready :(. They can easily convert provinces by pillaging every holding in a province. Interesting read. Agnatic, stability are very safe options, but with the ship tech boost i always manage to kidnap one of "Niall of the 9 hostages" bloodline carrier, then incorporate tanistry after 2 gens into my empire. Other pagan faiths have different modifiers. AI looters prefer coastal counties. You don't lose vassal opinion anyway when you raid, so the defense + morale + garrison bonus are insane compared to what you get from other doctrines (peaceful is pretty good too, i guess). Enatic-cognatic law is available. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of Rajas of India or Jade Dragon is enabled). Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. But if you want to expand, Unyielding is not that useful . Sorry for the confusion. Thread starter persona23; Start date Feb 5, 2019; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our . With Monks and Mystics, Zunists characters may join the Hermetic Society. Pagans are able to hold religious feasts (except Tengri/African). Rulers can order subject to Take the Vows. Generic Paganism and Hellenism, obivously. The devs deliberately made it so that certain societies will let you remain a member even if you are the "wrong" religion. Pagan Religion Reformation Advice. Reformer becomes the first religious head. Aztec Pyramid construction. Since I tend to rely on retinues and holy orders to expand it applies little benefit to me though. Autonomous leadership bonus for an attribute depends on original pagan religion. To even start thinking about CK2s Pagan Reformation, you will first need to conquer three of the holy sites of your religion. Example: Your sister matri marries some guy from Ashina dynasty, they have a daughter for example, all you have to do is to matri marry her to your male heir. Also, nomads are often an exception due to their unique mechanics. Leadership. I have received few private messages and some even answered to the thread when the post was very old. Partially redundant with Children of Perun doctrine. If you need Braunschweig to reform the Germanic faith it is best to conquer it in 769, while the Saxons still control it. Valve Corporation. AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous. Christianity, Islam, Eastern religions, reformed pagan faith, etc. Doesnt block us from raiding, hunting focus etc. Reformer gets a powerful artifact. Totally fine for religions without 30% levy bonus, but if you want to expand then other natures are better. Ruler does not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. Pagans can grant themselves divorces at will, but with a significant cash payment for the divorce and a -30 relation penalty to the divorcee's family. A generic Pagan faith is used in the history files to represent everyone from pre-Christian Irish kings to pre-Islamic Arabs. Some other day I read that this isn't a bug and it's working as intendent IMO Enatic is much, much better than Agnatic, because Agnatic prevents you from matri marrying, which means any chance to get a non-crafted bloodline is over, and because there are immensely more targets for matriarchal deposition than there is for the opposite. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. Temporal gives us nice hat upon reformation, and is part of synergy dogmatic, divine marriage which does not work atm. Due to the Germanic faith's long and combative relationship with Catholic western Europe, there are a number of unique events between them. Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. Pagan religions retain some features when reformed, regardless of the features chosen during reformation. Prisoners of different religions can be sacrificed for Piety. I will explain at the end of paragraph. Ancestor Worship. In addition, all pagan faiths can be reformed. The nearby county of Novgorod has a third holy site, which can be conquered relatively easily. Pagans may fight back in the name of the old gods, and even seek to eliminate the monotheists from Europe. actually that "pagan" religion in game is just the generic pagan religion that all pagans had before the "old gods" expansion. Inbreeding can be offset with concubines/polygamy. It's not something that occurs at the press of a button, but with a little effort, you can make even the most stalwart pagan take a knee to your faith. West African religion is a blanket term for the diverse pagan beliefs of the tribes of Sub-Saharan West Africa. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Except if you have founded bloodines with male rulers already. Finding one of the few Hellenic characters, and having them educate your child or granting them a title: This page was last edited on 16 August 2022, at 07:19. You can join the Hermetics (without unpausing) via temporary conversion to an appropriate religion (eg. The Orthodox Pentarchy is also fun. Bn rulers are playable with either Jade Dragon, The Old Gods, or Holy Fury. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. Matri Marry your female relative to someone with a bloodline, then marry their offspring to your ruler or heir. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igw2ec-Lp6c, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZVIEA1cbSo, UNITED STATES - The Cathar United States of Byzantium and Carpathia, https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/regional-livonian-mod.849150/. JavaScript is disabled. Full status of woman law is enforced. +40% garrison size at county of this religion. And with a steward running increase taxes in my capital, I had more income than the Umads up north. This faith is exceptionally limited - it has all the disadvantages of unreformed paganism and none of the benefits, nor can it be reformed. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. The love of battle among these pagans means that rulers incur no relation penalty with their vassals for having troops raised. That deserves recognition. =/. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. The religious head can decide upon death to venerate a given ancestor, in a process similar to sainthood. Pagans being attacked in a holy war by Christians or Muslims may choose to save their realms and end the war by accepting the faith of the invaders. You are using an out of date browser. Sons of Ragnarok is combination of two bad doctrines, if we dont pick it, we will still retain ability to have viking trait and coastal county conquest cb, however, we will lose river sailing and prepared invasion ability which we dont need later in game ( and AI can close rivers for us by having enough fort level in river counties). Also you cannot create warrior lodge. Because raiding counts as war, and they have county conquest casus belli that require no reason for war, however, few rulers need find themselves short on wars for long. By 867, the entire dynasty has converted to Hindu/Sunni, and merely a single courtier of this religion remains in the world, living in exile within the Shanshabani realm (Another exile is also there in 936 start). So is it bug or is it not a bug? Community Patch with Improved Genetics 2.0 and Other Mods, Pagan Ancestor and Sea King Bloodline Changes, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Bloodline#Ancestor_Veneration_Bloodlines. Also, your heir will very often be past childbearing age by the time they take the throne which, combined with the fertility debuff for unlanded characters is recipe for trouble and at best costs you the genius traits in many generations. Gurus. Enatic-cognatic law is available. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. I think that'd be the best. If you have tribal government, it is recommended to choose either Agnatic Clans or Enatic Clans doctrine to avoid Gavelkind succession law. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. AI rulers are more aggressive.AI rulers only convert same-group provinces and only when zealous Bn is also unlocked by Jade Dragon, and Horse Lords allows playing of pagan nomadic rulers. Similar story with Ancestor Veneration, but with more hassle of sucking up to the old dudes, the one disadvantage of Ancestor Veneration is that we must pick either Hierocratic or Autocephalous leadership (I think). (There is one exception. My personal experience with Venerated Ancestors has been extremely inconsistent. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. Old religion followers will be heretics with a -25 penalty to relations to members of the reformed faith. You want to conquer followers of the Cross/Crescent anyways. No Revolt Risk for different religion in county. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces However, there are always playable rulers and provinces for this particular religion in Africa. Stability: It does what it says, your vassals rarely start any factions, your domain limit is huge, all is well until you want to start some wars. Autonomous leadership is only good if you need neither GHWs nor excommunications. More posts you may like r/CrusaderKings Join 3 days ago CK2 6.4K 103 r/CrusaderKings 5 days ago Two of the religion's holy sites are located within de-jure Lithuania (with another site close by), making it one of the easier pagan religion to reform. As such, it is best used when the player is ready for their nation to "mature" from aggressive expansion against small targets to needing to maintain an empire. Traits inherited from unreformed religion. However, the religion's holy sites are scattered far and wide making reformation very hard. The easiest route to reform the faith is with a Finnish ruler as de-jure Finland has one holy site and two others near it. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. (Such as reconquering Slavic lands as a Slav from Christians.) Zun can also be reformed like other pagan faiths. )Best religion for gold income as liege : sunni Due to the additional tax from holdings in counties without Muslim religion. Because of this, it is usually strategically advisable to hold off on reforming your religion until your realm is at a multiple-kingdom level, and to make sure to exploit any subjugation or county conquest CBs against nearby easy target pagans before reforming your religion. Certain reformation doctrines allow Open succession or Eldership as well. Invaders are only here because they have 3 shitty doctrines that are good when they are packed in one slot. AI rulers will try to convert their provinces. In early start dates Kiev is vulnerable to Tengri nomads (it borders the Magyars), so you may find that fabricating a claim to conquer Rugen is an easier way to get your third holy site. Lastly, pagans may, by decision, convert to the religion of a spouse or concubine of a different faith. I think these are well balanced. I admit I have not played Hellenic yet but it sounds awesome to me. Anyway, good list and I have to say I agree on most of the points! Hellenic). Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable. The first thing you will choose is one Nature. Standard stuff for defensive pagans. And isn't Civilized like a dream? Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history? The Germanic reformer becomes the Fylkir, a ducal-level secular leader similar to an Islamic Caliph. For conquests Islam is way too OP if you're not a nomad. 2019, Foreign missionaries become more effective, venerate a given ancestor, in a process similar to sainthood, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Pagans&oldid=43605, Play I like equality. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of. +1 piety per month while at peace. Zunist mechanics are a hybrid of defensive/offensive pagans and organized religions. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. Bloodthirsty gods is very fun, we can get a bloodline, have our champion win several death matches, and we have access to Flower War cb which cripples enemy economy when we win. Reforming a pagan faith establishes a formal religious hierarchy and scripture - adapting elements of the Abrahamic faiths in order to more effectively oppose them. Hellenism (Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit), Incompatible with Religious Tax and Civilized doctrines, Incompatible with Sons of Ragnarok doctrine. Unyielding: This would be my number one if I had to chose. The faith is in a strong position in the 769 start as north Africa is mainly ruled by tiny Muslim realms which can easily be conquered after consolidating your position in the south. Ruler do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. However, the Tengri faith does not die out during the entire period of the game and there are always relatively strong rulers for it in the game. Hierocratic/Autocephalous is also doable but the religious head can be a real moron and not call GHW as soon as it becomes available. Strangely there are no upsides to Shia or Ibadi. The selection of Leadership style determines the type of religious head. If consorts are available and the Peaceful religion nature and Tribalist traits from Autonomous leadership outweigh the Short Reign penalty (and the player ensures that most vassals are of the player's dynasty), it makes sense to pick Divine Marriage instead of Stability, to get an even higher score from Divine marriages, in situations where inbreeding is already likely. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. I like Buddhism because the combination of concubinage and heir-nomination means you can end up with an unbroken line of Strong Genius rulers if you play the genetics game well, but unfortunately they're lousy at expansion. But you're right, in some situations it's really powerful. Can proselytize in pagan capital even when tribal or nomad. The Short Reign relations modifier is three times more severe for pagans. 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Either Agnatic Clans or Enatic Clans doctrine to me allowing tribal rulers to use primogeniture proselytizing! Since AI rarely bothers converting them otherwise, then Marry their offspring to your ruler or heir functionality of platform! Gives us nice hat upon reformation, and gives you bonuses, and even seek eliminate. Had no idea what the end result would be my number one if I had more income than the doctrines. As it becomes available because they have 3 shitty doctrines that are good when they reform and will loose...
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