Contents 1 History 2 Station layout 2.1 Unfinished station 2.2 Exits On a side note, the Rogers Street Junction needs to be rebuilt regardless of any extensions. Kings Hy/Beverly Rd is 564 yards away, 7 min walk. Atlantic-Barclays, now thats interesting. IRT Utica would run express by default and be a much quicker commute (not to mention better transfer options at Atlantic Ave.) As you stated CBTC will boost frequency a bit more but those are all other projects that need to be done first. The station's other fare control area has two staircases going down to each platform, a crossover, part-time turnstile bank and customer assistance booth, high entry/exit turnstiles that provide full-time access to and from the station, and two staircases going up to either side of Fulton Street between Stuyvesant and Schenectady Avenues. And I much prefer to have 2nd Ave take over the B/D trains on the Manhattan Bridge so that they can be rerouted to Williamsburg instead. [15] The underground portion of the line became known as the Eastern Parkway Line, or Route 12, while the elevated portion became known as the New Lots Line. I dont disagree that extending Nostrand is a good idea rather that as the only option is a subway that increases costs. I disagree that people can just simply take a bus, but extending the Nostrand Av line south is needed. from those two subway stations In fact I am writing this today because I want to get ahead of whatever the official plan might state; I have very little faith in MTA planners and I feel that anything they release will be overly designed in a way so that its D.O.A. Extensions of the IRT subway east or south of the station have been proposed since the line's planning in the 1910s, which included terminating the line at Buffalo Avenue just east of the station, or extending the line down Utica Avenue towards Flatbush Avenue and Avenue U near Kings Plaza. There are also some windows in this level. [31], For the station at Utica Avenue and Fulton Street, see, Elevator at northwest corner of Utica Avenue and Eastern Parkway, in Eastern Parkway median, Last edited on 30 November 2022, at 09:22, Utica Avenue station (IND Fulton Street Line), "Facts and Figures: Annual Subway Ridership 20142019", "Subway to Brooklyn Opened for Traffic; First Regular Passenger Train Went Under the East River Early This Morning. And on what route? But for Brooklyn, maybe 4? 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B: I wouldnt worry much about curves coming into terminals. An article today about from Second Avenue Sagas about the 7 line extension station at Hudson Yards, awaiting passengers as the rest of the mega development is completed, reminded us of these.. I realize it looks like Im being hypercritical but thats are refurbished as well as adopted in new construction. Same goes for if a problem happens by Flatbush or Utica, a train can be easily detoured to another branch. Median not wide enough for a true viaduct? The point of Utica Ave is that riders are trying to get downtown so who would ever ride the 4 all the way out just to switch to the A when they could have just gotten on the A at the first place. 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This station is compliant with the 1990 Americans With Disabilities Act. But the question is what is more dire, commuters coming from Wall St (with their many different subway options) or those coming from Williamsburg (with the congested L)? It will be express. Noise complaints, and B46 would have to be detoured. A lower cost solution to your previous The Board of Rapid Transit Commissioners approved the route on September 27, 1900,[6] and the contract was signed on September 11, 1902. Great idea. Im not opposed to interlining but given the unique layout of the Rogers Junction the only affordable option is to segregate the services. The only relief valve I can see short of the billion+ solution is reverse-branching lower Utica so that some its runs can continue up Nostrand. 3 trains dont go to Brooklyn late nights. something like that on pillars in refurbished station? The MTA studied [PDF] rebuilding this junction in 2009 and came up with two plans. There is also sporadic 2 and 5 service during rush hours. The S could probably do full-time service from either Euclid Ave or Utica Av to Rockaway Blvd. While those numbers are nothing to scoff at, especially as they have seen over 10% increases in ridership over the last decade, the E train at Jamaica-Parsons sees ridership of over 12 million annually. Alon Levy did a back-of-the-napkin estimate of how much a mostly elevated line would cost and found it a better cost per rider than even 2nd Ave. For future expansion of the system we need to be open to thinking outside the box. [19][20], In 1981, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority listed the station among the 69 most deteriorated stations in the subway system. The school, at Avenue J can very easily be replaced using the existing parking lot across the street. The Queens Boulevard Express turns out 15 TPH each on its two services, and if anything DeKalb is the major limitation here; at least with Sixth Avenue its not the biggest deal since the merges on both ends of CPW also limit capacity. SAS-Grand Central future awkward? tph, equal to 16 A Div. Now, if this was built, the 2/3/4/5 will be able to run to either branchline from either direction. [22] This is the easternmost underground and four-track subway station on the Eastern Parkway Line; to the east (railroad south) of here, the local tracks rises and become the IRT New Lots Line, while the express tracks end at bumper blocks just under Ralph Avenue. Well, thats essentially what IRT rolling stock is; its 3/4 of full size. Kind of surprising the Fulton line was left out of it. Ive thought of three more elevated footprint lightening techniques; these are all actually in use right now: 9. The developers wrote that they raised all the station platforms so that a 1.5% grade would help the trains accelerate. Delays wont occur because of judges ordering you to change your practices to mitigate pollution or traffic effects. [3] If connected to the Second Avenue subway I feel that could provide another East Side alternative for passengers and help relieve pressure from the IRT lines. Abandoned Jerome Post Office (Jerome) This mile-high town in the Black Hills of Yavapai County was once a thriving mining community where rich stores of copper, gold and silver ore were discovered in the late 19 th century. Besides, with Utica so far out it would be much better service to have express trains rather than a longer local train. There is a very good argument to be made that building the Worth St-Williamsburg section would alleviate traffic on the L train and serve a growing jobs center around Hudson Sq in lower Manhattan. Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College is 2338 yards away, 28 min walk. But they can be overcome piece by piece whereas it would be one big jump from IRT sizing. Utica Av/Av D is 464 yards away, 6 min walk. Meaning that in order for a IND to run down Utica Av, Utica Av would have to be destroyed and rebuilt around the same area of the 3/4 station. Crown HeightsUtica Avenue station was constructed as part of the Eastern Parkway Line. Nostrand is also a major corridor, and demand would be enough for both buses and subway. You are proposing adding a couple billion dollars for what isnt all that much more capacity in the grand scheme. I do like the general arc of this post, although there is one bit I find a bit questionable; > Looking at a modern take on IND plan, since the Chrystie St Connection rerouted the 6th Ave express trains over the Manhattan Bridge and the extra local service to Williamsburg, there is no extra capacity along 6th Ave to connect with the new line. Even before revenue service or full tunnels were dug the six-track station was a relic of another era. I thought that was my craziest but. An additional part of the project would be to create a better terminal at Flatbush Ave-Brooklyn College. You are correct that the larger option would require shutting down service which is one reason Im in favor of the smaller option. B, the curve wont be as sharp when the train curves down Flatbush to Kings Plaza. I agree using Worth has disadvantages. The full-time side at the eastern (railroad south) end has two staircases from each platform going up to a crossover (the western ones go up to a ramp that leads to the main fare control area), where a turnstile bank and two exit-only turnstiles provide access to and from the station. Also if most people are going to midtown (which Id argue given the census data I show isnt the case) then there is nothing in the way of this with the new routing. The new IND subway replaced the BMT Fulton Street El. CBTC will raise it higher and the E trains route is already budgeted for that in both Manhattan and Queens. "Not a lot of people get to see this area," said Doug Nintzel with the . In fact, most of the proposals are costly, when they could instead be replaced with cheaper alternatives. Last but not least, are the 2 and 3 doing skip stop? Abandoned Mineral . Arent they doing Close by to where youd have your subway portal at Kings Highway is the Bay Ridge branch. Theres nothing stopping that since it runs at a lower frequency. At Utica Avenue, provisions were made for a transfer to the proposed Utica Ave line. In May 2014, MTA installed three elevators: one near the intersection of Utica Avenue and Fulton Street, connecting the mezzanine to the street, and two elevators connecting the platforms to the mezzanine. First, is that, just as with the Second Avenue Subway, anything done would have to be in stages. Looking into the window reveals a cinder-block wall that were erected to prevent glimpses into the closed portion of the intermediate level mezzanine. I was gonna comment this on Build Transit Where Its Most Effective, Not Where Its Least Expensive but comments were closed. Barring a brand new line paralleling the EPL and Fulton, which wouldnt make sense as long as capacity can still be raised on those lines, the Fulton Street line looks like the only way to ever realize that greater capacity. blend into hilly terrain. Environmentalists wont sue over the clouds of dust raised. That gives you much more cacapity to work with than just the 10 tph you be stuck with via your plan (assuming you mean to have it be the Queens Blvd branch of 2nd Ave). And D as well if cut-and-cover is used. IRT Utica only needs a simple switch added to Rogers Junction to start running. This was built into the station as a provision for the proposed Utica Avenue Line, which is why the station itself has no exits to Utica Avenue. Lets see how we might mitigate the new round of issues you brought up. The first would create a new flying junction below Eastern Parkway which would allow all trains to merge on their own tracks freely and the second would install two switches just pas the junction letting express trains bypass local trains. But this does not deal with the immediate needs of those that live along Utica Ave. Building an extension of the IRT could be opened long before the section through northern Brooklyn and would have immediate benefits by serving more riders with direct service rather than requiring transferring. Another elevator from the south mall leads to fare control.[23]. This would suggest that even if the full line was to be built most riders would be transferring to trunk lines headed to downtown rather staying on to midtown via Williamsburg. 7. Although not in the official report, soon after it was proposed to connect 14th St to Utica Ave. Might So heres my workup for a design toolkit of el popularizing methods: 1. A new station would therefore have to be built below the existing 3/4 Utica Ave station before continuing south. What do you figure the cost of the subway portion of the line to be? The problem here is between these two streets one lane will have to be teared up and bus stops will have to be relocated and detoured, which messes up a lot of commuters daily travel. After the 1990s renovation of the Utica Avenue station, the mezzanine was shortened using cinder-block walls and the current tiling in the intermediate level, hiding the chain-link fence and the door behind it. And thats a jump I dont think we could ever make. Also, Utica Av(or Malcolm X Blvd because a BMT Line is past Fulton St)becomes smaller past Fulton St, so instead of one lane being ripped up, a whole street would be ripped up, causing the B46 to be detoured north of Fulton St. An elevated line would be a bad idea too, because north of Fulton St is just 2-story Pre-War homes, and the rooftops are around the same height as the tracks. The only I would love to see a post about a light rail system , Not very sure about the constraints of light rail (besides politicians lol) 14 St. W 14 St and 7th Ave, W 13 St and 7th Ave, W 12 St and 7th Ave. Two island platforms. Yet youd have it built to B division clearances. At its peak, it had more than 50 businesses.. BUT in order for that to happen you have to shut down service between Franklin and Flatbush and Franklin and New Lots. I just noticed not just the rough formatting and typos but Id accidentally truncated my handle to H. And I though drafting it offline would reduce mistakes! Finnaly, the IRT Utica Av doesnt have the provisions for having a IND Utica Av, so either one of two plans will have to happen: 1- Build a Eastern Pkwy Station under the 3/4 and have a steep incline back up to Empire Blvd so it can be able to portal out wherever (originally I thought it was going to portal out at Empire Blvd but I guess im wrong). Building it to B Division clearances is good but making it B Div from the get-go would be better still. Maybe Im reading too much into the zip code graphs but they both indicate that the majority of jobs in midtown Manhattan are in the center and western parts, not to the east. Im more in support of an IRT Utica Avenue subway and now you made a Rogers Junction plan clear. 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