Ethiopian Semitic languages exhibit a number of interconnected word-order patterns that are borrowed from neighboring Cushitic languages. Wikipedia defines it as a coastal, supratidal mudflat or sandflat in which evaporite-saline minerals accumulate as the result of semiarid to arid climate, but in Arabic it is a salt flat that is not necessarily supratidal. Some of the Swadesh nominals might be a bit too general to be stable, as JP was suggesting for some the verbs above. shifted to the more common inflection type -os : -okse-. (Its harder to shake off than one might think, I find. preserve noticeable traces of Pre-Semitic and, in Mesopotamia, also of Pre-Sumerian substratum. Also, Im not sure I know the formal definitions, but I have to assume youre talking about biological phylogenetics as derived from genomic studies. But in biology, too, phylogenetics has to contend with convergence (most of it not attributable to factors that are already understood in that much detail) and the occasional horizontal gene transfer. It will be soon; Ill try to remember to post the link here. Maybe strip off a few layers of irony/sarcasm/snark and try again? He excludes Omotic from Afroasiatic. There is abundant evidence for the spread of languages like Mande, Songhay and Hausa over the last couple of millennia (or even later.) Manessy classified Waama and Byali as both Eastern Oti-Volta but the grouping is very much more diverse internally than WOV. I think the reason bageri, boulangerie are later formations is that the early baker/fournisseur provided the oven space and/for not only bread or cakes. On what basis is it decided that some region constitutes a linguistic area? Are salmon a freshwater or a saltwater fish? I do not know what to do, but if two names co-exist, it is not necessarily a bad thing. Kusaal has triple vowels too, though expected three-mora monophthongs are reduced to two everywere except in maaa only; this is probably an exception on account of the change from *aaa to aaa (overlong glottalised vowel) being fairly recent (it was not complete in Toende Kusaal until after the 1970s.). Any hope of testing relations between this Macro-Sudanic, Saharan, KomanGumuz, Kuliak, Songhay or Shabo is beyond his optimism. Well, recognising IE words and morphology was the key to interpreting Hittite texts in the first place, so without that we wouldnt be able to understand it. Another interesting paper! Or as they call it in English, an accent, When I compared most recent common ancestor of Semitic to mitochondrial Eve, I wanted to note that everything is even worse: mitochondria do not reproduce sexually, even though they need us to make love (we assist their reproduction like bees assist flowers, just differently). but doesnt actually define mr-fochyn sea-pig anywhere. The non-r branches all have *i instead And I believe we know that agriculture and herding flowed out into Egypt, and have no particular evidence of flows in the other direction at relevant times. 2009; 276: 2703-2710. On the other hand, WOV as a whole has some suggestive features, like what appears to be a radically simplified verbal system, and (judging by diversity) the centre of gravity of Oti-Volta is well to the east, in Benin, so that WOV and Buli/Konni may well be historical intrusions from the east. Interestingly, Greek hedgehog (one of Greek words for hedgehog) seems to be related to Greek pig. Phylogenetics should be applicable to anything that evolves, where evolution just means descent with heritable modification, How do the biological mathematical models cope with widespread lateral transmission of genetic information. But it cannot be fixed by tinkering with the mathematics, because this isnt the problem in the first place Because weapons of mass destruction are usually banned for fresh-water recreational use in many countries. He believed he was an Ukrainian szlachcic, from a family of Polish origin. Suzanne Richard, in Encyclopedia of Archaeology, 2008. In most of human history though, the draw of oceanic coasts that they have over freshwater environments has not been fishing, but seal and seabird hunting. However, the great majority of the wonderful Bantu system cannot be matched outside the family (and to some extent, Bantoid.) There is no evidence for reconstructing most classes back even to Proto-Volta-Congo, with the exception of the two semantically most coherent classes (human and liquid) and one or perhaps two others. I dont think there were any settled agriculturalists around the pre-colonial Khoikhoi or Chukchi, both herders; settled agriculturalists certainly help fill out the diet, but at a pinch one can apparently live without them. Thus, the goal of the current study is to redescribe the material currently assigned to [], in light of recent anatomical (re)descriptions of a number of [] and as part of a broader reappraisal of []. But this seed would be observed as a different feature/set of features). Just want to go back to Lameens comment. Blench hopes to find evidence for Niger-KongoNilo-Saharan common roots. But we have a compound for porcupine, which in modern Russian folk-etymologizes as wildimage. Linguistic areas in which many diffused traits are shared among the languages are considered better established. IAM individuals (7000 years old) showed close genome-wide affinities with the Tarofalt individuals. On the question of what Levantine/North African means, and how it might relate to the origins of Afroasiatic: Thus, for example, ancestry related to the Chalcolithic Israel reference individuals could plausibly have originated anywhere in northeastern Africa or the Levant and could have been present in northeastern Africa for many thousands of years. It partly confirms my version: if the word was coined in Russian by a translator under influence of Polish usage, it must be a Kievan translator. What regulates population of people who live along rivers and sea coasts? But maximizing impact by creating spinoffs goes against this logic, Was wondering about the conflicting claims of studies from 2016 (ancient Levantine Y-DNA in Chadic speakers) and 2018 (Y-DNA in Chadic speakers all came from Baggara intrusions in historic times), then realized Dmitry Pruss had trumped some of this with a mid-2019 post in this thread. Above, breeding in fresh water, not on land. That was cute. I can change gender by suffixation, or in a childish manner by adding -a to make it feminine (regularized in Latvian for human beings) and changing agreement (regularized in Russian for human beings). This is even more important for creatures that live in the water, where heat loss is much faster than in air. The evidence from Wadi el-Hol suggests that development of the script was significantly motivated by written-communication needs among Semitic-speaking mercenaries serving in the Egyptian army. Beyond that, it waffles on the subject of inflection in ancestral Sino-Tibetan. I wonder if any Hatters have deeper knowledge. . Which reminds me: why Cono Sur? Distribution of the Afroasiatic/Hamito-Semitic languages in Africa. Pez, ya est dentro o fuera del agua, sea comestible o no. P.S. In cases where stripping a stem does not yield a real word, they resort to substitution when unable to access the correct form. It is a poor starting point, butit is some starting point. So the only remaining question is why he didnt go for hair or spike as the second element when he coined the word. The sci.lang FAQ Lots more, no doubt, in fields that I chance not to have a particular interest in. Dimmendaal (who splits Niger-Congo) is even less fairly to be characterised as a person with no interest in comparative work, if anything. Though given todays news, it might have been more topical for me to find new scholarship on Kehf el-Boroud! Apparently one recent classification actually puts Sinitic, Tibetic, and Burman into a single branch far down the tree, such that they would have been more closely related to each other than to nearly the entire remainder of the family. (African folklore is poor and overwhelmingly of Eurasian origin, no comparison to uniqueness and richness of Native American or Australian Aboriginal folklore). Linguistic analyses: The non-Bantu languages of north-eastern Africa. I think you are seriously underestimating the diversity of both Niger-Congo and Nilo-Saharan; even those who believe that those are actually valid constructs at all would say that both are very diverse indeed. Let the software count which phylogenetic hypothesis accounts for all the contradictory data in the most parsimonious way. WebBantu languages contain prefixes which are agglutinated to verb stems. is too suspicious. Maybe one tribe would have conquered the Plains and imposed its language, resulting in linguistic uniformity similar to demic diffusion. So it all makes sense . It looks conservative, matching all those nineteenth-century preconceptions about complex morphology being older. However, an abecedary found at the Palestinian site of Beth Shemesh, consisting of consonantal cuneiform characters like those in use at Ugarit, shows the same letter order as found in the Old South Arabian script. Yes, textbooks are not good, by maybe we then should be angry at them and not at the paper that merely says a detailed reconstruction of the Proto-Mande language, based on strict methodological principles is necessary. The extinct Meroitic language has been proposed (Bruce Trigger, 1964, 1977) as an unclassified Afroasiatic language, because it shares the phonotactics characteristic of the family, but there is not enough evidence to secure a classification (Fritz Hintze, 1974). Argh. Jfr almnninga-, laxafiskeri. Convincing people to arrive to a new picture of the world and start overlooking a different set possibilities would be more like Chomsky. * I myself would be quite OK with this, although I would probably think rather that Proto-Mande had in fact lost the class system. And then East Germanic speakers appearing in the south and Norse in English and areals like the North sea. Of course this would predict being able to find some semantically divergent verb comparisons. The evidence presented in this paper seems to be mostly typological, which really means almost nothing in this context. Instead, subjects who have difficulties with the prefix revert to xdam, a related, and legal, unaffixed form yielding a gender substitution. And just the first row, all, cognate sets: [kllu kllu kullu hullu kulluzo:m hulln ullmka kullmu nm nn nnm nnm kol kl kalu kal kal koll kull] Sea fishing is specialized work producing food for (mostly, originally) the local market. In these approaches, abstract representations emerge as secondary properties at best, and at worst, are absent entirely. Its not just Latin and Berber we have to play with here: the words also found in Greek (kattos/katta), Arabic (qitt), Syriac (qatt/qattu), not to mention Nubian, Celtic, and Germanic Plenty of space for specialists in each family to decide its origin is someone elses problem. Ru_slang (Russian) It calls for subsidy if you ask me. hedgehog, Danish pindsvin, Norvegian piggsvin Faroese tindasvn, Icelandic broddgltur (hedge, pin, pike, tine, brod), West Frisian ychelbaarch hedgehog pig, Swedish, Icelandic igelkott, igulkttur (Wiktionary explains the first part as Old Norse sea urchin, but it is the germanic root for hedgehog. It seems to me that the linguistic argument from diversity has always been that AA developed in the areas of diversity, and thats what I dont see supported by other lines of evidence. Ive just discovered that Roger Blenchs Archaeology, Language and African Past, that drasvi kindly pointed to above, contains the following words from Samuel Johnson himself, no less: There is no tracing the connection of ancient nations but by language; and therefore I am always sorry when any language is lost, because languages are the pedigree of nations. Proto-Mande is certainly doable. WebBantu languages are the original hebrew language. 67-82, 1982. So far none of these (geographically) Iranian languages look anything like Semitic. ), Theyre so intimidating that I never dared look inside! mereswine*), Porpoise in Welsh is the poetic llamhidydd leaper, acrobat.. Regular verbs also all make their gerunds by adding noun class suffixes directly to the verb stem itself. Language Miniatures a lot will probably hinge on whether they bother to include Frisian.). 2. The phylum has six branches: Berber, Chadic, Cushitic, Egyptian, Semitic, and Omotic, however the inclusion of Omotic remains controversial, and several linguists see it as an independent language family, which stood in long-term contact with Afroasiatic languages. 2000 years is not actually a long time compared with the probable time depth of NES: these languages are nowhere near as closely related to one another as the Germanic or the Romance languages, so a rigorous reconstruction of the protolanguage would take one back to a much earlier date than that. And he has a real researchers gift of coming up with new interesting questions to look into. Furthermore, I would suspect that it is easier to catch large quantities of fish with nets in open water (whereas fresh-water fishing is often limited to angling). Of all these proposals, the most controversial is what may be called the Inter-Saharan Hypothesis. Mampruli yugumpiinni hedgehog has a second component which looks like it either is, or has been remodelled on, piimni arrow, which at least makes some sort of sense. Of all these proposals, the most controversial is what may be called the Inter-Saharan Hypothesis. It would thus be normal to ask, say, a waiter, Qu pescados tiene de agua salada? What salt-water fish do you have? Lista de pescados means fish menu. In the domain of syntax, children typically gain command of simple clause structure in their language between ages two to three years. Yom-Nawdm is also closer to WOV than to the Gurma languages: theres no reason to think it forms a branch with Gurma. Just discovered that singulative in Breton is unanderenn where unander is sg. and -enn is singulative suffix. The Kehf el Boroud genomes are actually modeled as 50% Early European Farmer and 50% local ancestry in continuity with Taforalt, per wiki. And also this, from Paul Newman, who I have to say knowns what hes talking about when it comes to comparative linguistics: As anyone who has ever attempted to establish regular correspondences knows, it is not an easy task even when one is dealing with a moderately shallow time depth (lets say 5000 years [as it is commonly estimated to be in the case of Indo-European; J.M.S.]). (Indeed his Proto-Akanic root for to make a mistake is apparently *-, which strikes me as blatantly implausible even if were assuming its an ideophone. Too bad the language of the Vandals appears to have been East Germanic. Then there are even more complicated phenomena. I do not know. Dimmendaals belief that Songhay is definitely related to Nilotic. () , , meaning The point being that even dense scholarship cannot always unpick borrowing uncontroversially For example, Mbelime h die is actually quite certainly related to Kusaal kpi, and wn rivulet to Kusaal klig river in fact the stems correspond exactly, etymologically. On a slightly different tack, I wonder to what extent the interpretation of Hittite texts actually was helped by IE comparison. So if Im talking about the origin of turtles, all mammals are the basalmost amniotes because the basal (!) If you catch it and it is still alive, it is a pez, as in Sacamos este pez hace media hora y todava no hay muerto We landed ~ caught this fish a half hour ago and its still not dead. Still includes Saharan, mind. Also, you have to have read it, so you can drop oblique allusions to it into your conversation, or Real Linguists will not take you seriously. a) cognacy judgments are correct, that consensus can be reached about their accuracy. And geese are poultry. Language References and Links Afroasiatic (Afro-Asiatic), also known as Afrasian or Hamito-Semitic, Semito-Hamitic, or Erythraean is a large language family of about 300 languages that are 195 0 obj <>stream If there actually were a substantial number of regular lexical correspondences, everyone, no matter how hyper-rigorous, would be happily going along with Blenchs notion that Mande was just a very early branch of the tree. Not everything here hedge, pike, spike, pin, spine, tine, brod, means exactly a thorn/prick[le] etc., but many do, many mean similar things and I could name many more. Head-and-shoulder portrait of Adam Smith: INVISIBLE HAND). But the basic yes/no on adenine, cytosine, thymine and guanine is binary and unforgiving. That said, classical historical linguistics has nothing to say about dates (because, as above, nobody understands lexical change), but statistical methods can give limits on dates. Where were the referees? Basically Blench should have been around fifty-plus years ago, when his admirable empiricism might have headed off some of the Greenbergian hyperlumpery at the pass. wood s lot Yet a different Semitic writing tradition would descend from the Proto-Canaanite script. His Historical-Comparative Reconstruction of Nilo-Saharan has a version on p. 66 (maybe it was this book). Perhaps it can be generalized to any sociolects and dialects to an extent (just to an extent): they can be shaped by decisions, not mere action of some language machine that obeys language laws. Think about entering a kitchen, where too many things are cooked (or fried) at once and especially oil was burning. from the link above: ht fish . WebBantu languages, a group of some 500 languages belonging to the Bantoid subgroup of the Benue-Congo branch of the Niger-Congo language family. so colloquially, you might hear pescado guppy? -Pharyngeal consonants. That might reflect contamination from ygemde . But, regardless, I doubt whether Kitchen et al* even know why real historical linguists think that shared innovations matter. I didnt believe in Nilo-Saharan at that time any more than I do now; the possibility that I was interested in is that maybe Songhay-Saharan was a valid family. Cf. This doesnt make much sense to me. SImilarly, et is in a word list for arsusi (Oman) and I heard it mentioned in the context of Yemen. The native word icne salmon in middle Irish is sometimes used as a generic fish word (also has Xeribs suffix). Philolog.ru Often one trait may spread out and extend across a greater territory than another trait, whose territory may be more limited, so that their boundaries do not coincide (bundle). The evidence is pretty clear than the idea of Bantu-style noun class systems is more durable over time and linguistic diversity than any particular expression of the idea. Here you go (retyped by hand, so Ive used some abbreviations not in the original), from section 7.7 of Transactions of the Philological Society 100 (2002) p. 110ff,, the original Fuluffyan paper: We attempted to find the internal subgrouping of the WGmc family. Maybe its just the biorxiv version, which could have been scanned from a paper copy or maybe received in Word and printed for scanning or something. This was also supported by the presence of similar mtDNA haplogroups (U6, M1) associated with the back-to-Africa migration, suggesting a continuity between Later Stone Age and Early Neolithic populations in the Maghreb. I also have great sympathy for those who want to use the spelling auroch, since the singular aurochs still just looks wrong to me. It would be surprizing if any competent users of Spanish applied the word pescado to a live fish. Wiktionary among the proto-Slavic meanings of the wild part (dik-) lists wild animal, especially wild boar. (a self-pirated version is somewhere on the Internet. The likening of language development to the evolution of species is a metaphor. https://www.academia.edu/38390088/Closer_to_the_Ancestors_Excavations_of_the_French_Mission_in_Sedeinga_2013_2017. Can this method detect admixtures, or is it a measure of relative distance? No, it is just this page. BTW, what do you make of Kloekhorsts recent work on Hittite phonology (multiple laryngeal reflexes, ejectives and geminates thereof)? Transblawg Sigh.). However, either way it looks explicable as assimilation of the *gd cluster (which seems to make more sense anyway than spontaneous g/d fluctuations. But if we postulate that the entirety of African Neolithic is ultimately of Middle Eastern origin, then, of course, everything falls back into place. Separated by a common language When that came to an end would be when. The very existence of Niger-Congo, and of Nilo-Saharan or whatever smaller N-S groupings one is willing to accept as directly related, seems to require events of demic transition, because we know no other mechanisms by which they would have systematically outcompeted their diverse neighbors in pre-state, limited trade settings. Gonia Jarema, in Handbook of Neurolinguistics, 1998. I have a poor knowledge of Korean, and I would be interested if someone who knows more could enlighten me on this point. As a native speaker of Spanish, I stand by my characterisation. Who chose the referees, and on what basis? They could otkochevat* from Africa to the Middle East, pick up tools and then go back, armed with bronze and iron and cattle and then with books. Languagehat.com does not endorse any potential defamatory opinions of readers, and readers should post opinions regarding third parties at their own risk. Individual-generic on one hand, and individual-collective(mass) on the other, where mass can be applied to fish that you eat (cow/bull beef), to fish in the river or a basket and to many kinds of fish. For Turkana, someone should write The Concept of Carrot. I assume deep antiquity had much more diversity, that was erased in the period youre mentioning, because of recognizable, new centralizing forces of trade, conquest and prestige. As I said, the low-hanging fruit has been picked. . And yet, I think you miss the thrust of my argument. The caliciform culture, mass-produced corrugated cups and bowls, links sites across the region, including the southern Levant (EB IV). On the other hand, the bright orange background to his slides (with scarlet bullet points) , >>Dimmendaals belief that Songhay is definitely related to Nilotic. Lots of biologists thought the same when phylogenetics was introduced in biology forty years ago. The classification of Kujarg within Afroasiatic is not agreed upon. Basal lineages in many cases really havent changed all that much in eons. Put another way, its only bringing us back 6-900 years from Old Nubian, not 2,000, and only doing that in part based on logic derived from Old Nubian itself. But some had dropped out, at random, so what survived of language C was not C1 through C100, but C11, C14, C22, C37. What we did [] was to construct a database including several WGmc and two NGmc languages to serve as an outgroup, both because the early data for many WGmc languages are too sparse and because we wanted to see what 2ky of of development in contact would lead to. Taking this universal applicability as given, presumably either intergenerational language transmission works much like genetics (plainly false) or the relevant mathematical techniques are not dependent on exactly how this transmission works. One domain in which linguists invoke a particularly abstract level of representation is Semitic word formation. His proposed Proto-NES form for sister as given there is *kdt, however. Evidence that the internet is not as idiotic as it often looks. 33003050 B.C.) >It is actually by no means clear that even Eastern Sudanic is a real entity at all: The fragmentary and highly stereotyped character of the Meroitic remains is always going to limit its direct usefulness in reconstruction severely. There is a certain tradition of attempting to derive Latin cattus from Berber kadiis but, plausibility aside, the latter word is in fact Nubian (Nubians are referred to as Berber in Egyptian Arabic, among other names. Unsurprisingly. Almost certainly Kelif is an OCR error for (or human misreading of) Kehf. Which it did, replacing preliminary typological classifications by Meinhofs contemporaries. ), Im fairly sure that a Bayesian phylogenetic analysis of the currently spoken Germanic languages based on Swadesh lists would show that English was basal.. A Piagetian orientation will explain them in terms of general cognitive principles and shared conceptual underpinnings which provide a universal epistemological basis for acquisition of linguistic knowledge (Slobin 1985). And so, when IEists say Proto-Indo-European, they variously mean Proto-Indo-Anatolian, Proto-Indo-Tocharian, Proto-Indo-Actually-European, the first two, the last two, all three, or their lack of conscious awareness that this is actually an issue. What are the 5 branches of the Afro-Asiatic family? He also added (and sub-classified) the Chadic languages, and proposed the new name Afroasiatic for the family. Arabic Fisch. So they have a +/- 25% variance for their origin (using the most generous to them calculation), and they think they can just chop off 95% of their lower bound and still be making enough sense to publish? And more. Locative going with middle voice seems odd semantically, though. It runs into yet worse trouble with Gur, and especially Oti-Volta: I think much mischief has resulted from the relative underdescription of Oti-Volta at the time theses megaphyla were being brewed up. in the Swadesh-100 list. n&5/V/UHSNP\.\Xo 1>xv.EIskUoY0H]jDsG*h$ &5[5<8- But I suppose thats what you meant by dissimilation. The hypothesis that a group of languages including Semitic, Egyptian Berber, Cushitic and Hausa (later expanded to all Chadic) are genetically related has been part of the linguists res (privatae res, one might say) for over a hundred years. But it clearly looks like were finally getting somewhere. Could it simply be older than the Germanic *o > *a shift? The paddlefish is a commercial food fish in all 3 areas (American paddlefish were introduced in China), but not an important one. But could this article on an Old Nubian letter help you believe his assertion that The /g/ is just the development of an ancient *d as aneffect of dissimilation is more than just cherry-picking. Thats not the part that astonished me, only the rest if it as far as I know, the common understanding is that Semitic spread into the Levant and Mesopotamia from the South. What signs suggest that it flowed in the opposite direction? His argument is that morhological reconstruction simply does not work for Mande. This may be due to first encountering the mistaken version, the same way KAOS from Get Smart left me confused for year about the correct spelling of chaos.. Nor do these problems come as news to comparativists, who have been well aware of them right from the beginning. , or is it decided that some region constitutes a linguistic area ( also has Xeribs )! 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